From owner-kxt Tue Sep 2 07:54:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1001 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 07:54:17 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <01BCB7F3.2C2E50A0@hhtam011059.netvigator.com> From: JBFN To: "'kxt@info.com'" Subject: KX-T: Acidsoft PCAS ver2.2 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 22:54:25 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk For those who are interested to try out, the Acidsoft PABX Call = Accounting System v2.2 is now available for download from = http://www.download.com . NOTE: while the link says it is for ver2.1, = the downloaded files will be actually v2.2 (we are still in the process = of asking them to change the link description.) ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Wed Sep 3 06:10:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (666 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:10:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Glans Subject: KX-T: 2-way DID on the 336 To: kxt@info.com Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Has anybody had trunking/install troubles with the new 2-way DID card for the 336.?? Does wink start need to be enabled? ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Wed Sep 3 13:18:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (763 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 21:12:55 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 21:12:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Alfonso M Alba Subject: KX-T: KXTD 1232 Programing To: kxt@info.com Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk I try to use E123.EXE to programing the KXTD 1232 but when I try to connect an off line message appears after tring to connect. I really want to know wich are the steps to connect it to a pc. Greetings ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Wed Sep 3 13:21:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (866 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:34:08 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <01BCB499.F64A6D40@mintang486> From: Min Tang To: "'kxt@info.com'" Subject: KX-T: kx-t123211d Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:38:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Hi, my model number is kx-t123211d does it mean it is a digital system? or it is still a analog system? thanks, Min Tang MIS AEM, INC. Email: aeminc@adnc.com URL: www.aem-usa.com TEL: (619) 587-8285 FAX: (619) 455-5528 ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Wed Sep 3 13:21:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (819 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 18:42:15 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 18:42:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Kish Subject: KX-T: Ring Cadence To: kxt@info.com Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk I have a Panasonic 308 and I would like to know if there is any way to change the inter extension ringing to the regular phone ring instead of the two short rings. Thanks Bob Kish ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Wed Sep 3 13:21:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1219 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 16:24:59 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 16:24:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Claydon Subject: KX-T: equipment for sale To: kxt@info.com Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Equipment for sale: It's unusual that we have a surplus of anything, but these are available: one used KXT61610 8x16 Analog KSU, Rev 3 software. Perfect. best offer. World's greatest utility switcher. One used VSR 6 port x 12 hr. voicemail. Rebuilt with new hard drive, latest software, new controller card. I had this one on a KXTD1232-1 and a KXT123211D at various times. Manual, 386 chassis, 9" monitor and mini-keyboard. Complete. $950 or b/o. One used and fully reconditioned 123211D, fully carded to 12x32. Perfect. Removed on upgrade from a very quiet mansion. Latest vers. of ROMs. $1,000/b.o. Please contact Steve at Nova Systems novasys@wco.com ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Wed Sep 3 13:21:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1018 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 16:33:33 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 16:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Claydon Subject: KX-T: Dialers for sale To: kxt@info.com Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk >From time to time we end up with wholly owned equipment that we have to dispose of and do it at sometimes absurd prices to make room on the shelves. Things really do build up. Here's a good one for those who know what they are & what they're worth if you need them. Mitel 4 channel Smart T1 with rev 10 or 11 software. 12 available, have all power supplies, all work. Battery could use replacement in some. Sold as a lot. $300. contact me via email novasys@wco.com ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Wed Sep 3 13:22:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1001 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 07:54:17 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <01BCB7F3.2C2E50A0@hhtam011059.netvigator.com> From: JBFN To: "'kxt@info.com'" Subject: KX-T: Acidsoft PCAS ver2.2 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 22:54:25 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk For those who are interested to try out, the Acidsoft PABX Call = Accounting System v2.2 is now available for download from = http://www.download.com . NOTE: while the link says it is for ver2.1, = the downloaded files will be actually v2.2 (we are still in the process = of asking them to change the link description.) ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Wed Sep 3 13:22:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (666 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:10:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Glans Subject: KX-T: 2-way DID on the 336 To: kxt@info.com Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Has anybody had trunking/install troubles with the new 2-way DID card for the 336.?? Does wink start need to be enabled? ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Wed Sep 3 17:06:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1131 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 17:02:40 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 17:01:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Gray - AugSoft Reply-To: tgray@augsoft.com To: Steve Claydon cc: kxt@info.com Subject: Re: KX-T: equipment for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: x-no-archive: yes Organization: August Software Corporation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk The KXT61610 Rev 3 system is a 6x16 system. On Sun, 31 Aug 1997, Steve Claydon wrote: > Equipment for sale: > > It's unusual that we have a surplus of anything, but these are available: > > one used KXT61610 8x16 Analog KSU, Rev 3 software. Perfect. > best offer. World's greatest utility switcher. > ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Wed Sep 3 17:30:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1899 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 17:26:45 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <01BCB88F.1D801A60@mintang486> From: Min Tang To: "'Randy Dell'" , Min Tang Cc: "'KXT mailing list'" Subject: RE: KX-T: kx-t123211d Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 17:30:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk thank you very much. we are looking for a voice mail system for the that model. what would be a good choice suiting its capability and its capacity? how would I use it data pair? thanks, Min Tang -----Original Message----- From: Randy Dell [SMTP:RANDY-DELL@classic.msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 1997 4:44 PM To: Min Tang Subject: RE: KX-T: kx-t123211d You have a analog system, actually Panasonic refers to it as Hybrid, that because the voice (analog) is on the first pair and the data (digital) is on the second pair. RD ---------- From: owner-kxt@info.com on behalf of Min Tang Sent: Friday, August 29, 1997 4:38 PM To: 'kxt@info.com' Subject: KX-T: kx-t123211d Hi, my model number is kx-t123211d does it mean it is a digital system? or it is still a analog system? thanks, Min Tang MIS AEM, INC. Email: aeminc@adnc.com URL: www.aem-usa.com TEL: (619) 587-8285 FAX: (619) 455-5528 ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Wed Sep 3 22:51:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (832 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 22:49:20 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 22:49:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Klaus Karkov Subject: KX-T: Subscription To: kxt@info.com Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk I have recently started working with a KX-T1232 and having a few challenges regarding this I entered the Internet for some info-seeking. I think I could have great use of your Digest - but before I supply a subscription - please inform me of prices and eventual other terms Br. Klaus Karkov ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Thu Sep 4 00:27:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1422 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 00:25:43 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <32DDF8F4.1EF7@ticnet.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 01:46:28 -0800 From: "Engineering Lab" Reply-To: "Larry Herring" Organization: Southwest Digital Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kxt@info.com Subject: KX-T: rom up/down compatibility on kxtd series Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Ran into an interesting thing on the new -1 cabinets. put the -1 rom and ram in a non -1 cabinet, and the older cabinet runs -1. Put the older rom and ram in a -1 cabinet and it don't run (at all). happens on both the d816 and the d1232. hadn't had a chance to look for the differences, all cpu boards are same part number. there is a jmp 1 that is made on the -1 but haven't checked the older boards to see if jmp 1 is made on them. on the 816 there is a mask programmed part under the rom/ram daughter board that I need to check for different part numbers. anyone else out there (with too much spare time) know what changed? thanks -Larry ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Thu Sep 4 00:27:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1831 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 00:25:47 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <32DDFCE2.1B18@ticnet.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:03:14 -0800 From: "Engineering Lab" Reply-To: "Larry Herring" Organization: Southwest Digital Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kxt@info.com Subject: KX-T: tvp 150 error logs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk running a tvs 150 on a 336 and have found some interesting problems. (I know, I could write a large book on problems on both the 150 and the 336! But there are enough workarounds to be able to use them) 1. the error log (in utilities) on the 150 is loaded with COMM errors with the DSP boards and the CO (analog) boards. There are an average of ten a day. This 150 has 3 dsp and 3 co cards loaded for 6 channels. The errors are random, different cards at different times. 2. Occassionally, a new message in a mailbox will not show up for several hours. IE: caller leaves message in box 155 at 10AM, user checks for mail at 11AM - no new messages. At 2PM user checks for mail and there is a NEW message stamped 10AM! Occurs randomly (different mailboxes) system wide maybe once every 3 days. Of course the customer thinks I think they are crazy, but I have now also caught a tvs 75 and 100 do the same thing. (it is more obvious on the 150 because of the 1000 messages left each day) Anyone seen these before, any known fix, or what to do to limit it? Thanks, -Larry ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Thu Sep 4 09:10:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2592 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 09:08:53 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <01BCB912.BE487220@mintang486> From: Min Tang To: "'Randy Dell'" Cc: "'KXT mailing list'" Subject: RE: KX-T: kx-t123211d Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 09:12:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk where can I get the information on KX-TVS75, 100, or 200? Thank you very much, Min Tang -----Original Message----- From: Randy Dell [SMTP:RANDY-DELL@classic.msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 1997 9:45 PM To: Min Tang Subject: RE: KX-T: kx-t123211d The Panasonic KX_TVS75, 100 or 200 would be a good choice, not only does it integrate well, it would also work if you later upgraded your switch to the digital KXTD. The data pair of your KX-T123211d is used for the LCD and the feature buttons on the KX-T70XX series of phones. Good Luck. RD ---------- From: Min Tang Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 1997 5:30 PM To: 'Randy Dell'; Min Tang Cc: 'KXT mailing list' Subject: RE: KX-T: kx-t123211d thank you very much. we are looking for a voice mail system for the that model. what would be a good choice suiting its capability and its capacity? how would I use it data pair? thanks, Min Tang -----Original Message----- From: Randy Dell [SMTP:RANDY-DELL@classic.msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 1997 4:44 PM To: Min Tang Subject: RE: KX-T: kx-t123211d You have a analog system, actually Panasonic refers to it as Hybrid, that because the voice (analog) is on the first pair and the data (digital) is on the second pair. RD ---------- From: owner-kxt@info.com on behalf of Min Tang Sent: Friday, August 29, 1997 4:38 PM To: 'kxt@info.com' Subject: KX-T: kx-t123211d Hi, my model number is kx-t123211d does it mean it is a digital system? or it is still a analog system? thanks, Min Tang MIS AEM, INC. Email: aeminc@adnc.com URL: www.aem-usa.com TEL: (619) 587-8285 FAX: (619) 455-5528 ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Mon Sep 8 02:35:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (972 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 02:33:19 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) From: "Andrejs Pukitis" To: Subject: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 12:17:48 +0300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 X-Info: Evaluation version at servers Message-Id: <09354323800014@rzf.lv> Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Hi, does anyone knows something about Battery Adaptor KX-A26D? What does it do?Is there some way to connect batteries without using KX-A26D? I need to make backup for KX-T336 (one shelf). Problem is, that I need backup time for about 12 hours. With currently used backup I get only ~1,5 h. Thanks, Andrejs ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Mon Sep 8 02:59:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (973 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 02:58:07 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) From: "Andrejs Pukitis" To: Subject: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 12:42:24 +0300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 X-Info: Evaluation version at servers Message-Id: <10002376700015@rzf.lv> Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Hi, does anyone knows something about Battery Adaptor KX-A26D? What does it do?Is there some way to connect batteries without using KX-A26D? I need to make backup for KX-T336 (one shelf). Problem is, that I need backup time for about 12 hours. With currently used backup I get only ~1,5 h. Thanks, Andrejs ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Mon Sep 8 11:04:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (721 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:03:37 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Becki True Subject: KX-T: Caller ID on analog KSU To: kxt@info.com Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk I'm sure this subject has been covered, but is there a way to provide Caller ID with a KXT61610 KSU? Can you connect it in parallel like a fax or modem? Thanks, Becki ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Mon Sep 8 18:47:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2282 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 18:46:36 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <3414C65B.705F@ticnet.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 20:45:31 -0700 From: "Engineering Lab" Reply-To: "Larry Herring" Organization: Southwest Digital Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrejs Pukitis CC: kxt@info.com Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D References: <09354323800014@rzf.lv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Andrejs Pukitis wrote: > > Hi, does anyone knows something about Battery Adaptor KX-A26D? What does it > do?Is there some way to connect batteries without using KX-A26D? > I need to make backup for KX-T336 (one shelf). Problem is, that I need > backup time for about 12 hours. With currently used backup I get only ~1,5 > h. > Thanks, > > Andrejs The Pana adapters are typically battery control and protection (float charging, shorted cell protection [over current] and low battery shutdown [low voltage]. It watches both auto batteries that are charged and run in series. The KSU is a 26 VDC device. The KSU power supply brings in 117VAC and converts it to 26 VDC, this appears at the adapter terminal and internally feeds several switching regulators providing the needed +12, +6 and -16 to run the ksu. We found it more cost effective to use a $120 280VA computer backup box. Use one that uses 12VDC internally, then bring out the battery leads to a 24AH 12V battery (a popular battery selling around $30). A kxtd1232 will run 4 hours. Need more time, use a bigger battery, or add matching batteries in parallel. With the 117VAC available, you can plug in those accessories (valcom box, ring decipher, etc) Hope this gives you some ideas. 12 hours on a 336 would probably take 4 auto batteries, look at the automotive cigarette lighter Ac adapters used with a 10 amp automatic automotive battery charger and a golf cart battery. -Larry ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Mon Sep 8 19:42:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2976 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 19:41:34 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:40:58 +0800 (HKT) From: "Audiotronics Co." To: Engineering Lab cc: Andrejs Pukitis , kxt@info.com Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D In-Reply-To: <3414C65B.705F@ticnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Engineering Lab wrote: Dear sir, Might I know the connection pin assignment on the DIN connector of the KXT-61610 or the KX-A26D ? So we could make the adaptor acccordingly ? thanks, Simon audio@iohk.com > Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 20:45:31 -0700 > From: Engineering Lab > To: Andrejs Pukitis > Cc: kxt@info.com > Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D > > Andrejs Pukitis wrote: > > > > Hi, does anyone knows something about Battery Adaptor KX-A26D? What does it > > do?Is there some way to connect batteries without using KX-A26D? > > I need to make backup for KX-T336 (one shelf). Problem is, that I need > > backup time for about 12 hours. With currently used backup I get only ~1,5 > > h. > > Thanks, > > > > Andrejs > > The Pana adapters are typically battery control and protection (float > charging, shorted cell protection [over current] and low battery > shutdown [low voltage]. It watches both auto batteries that are charged > and run in series. The KSU is a 26 VDC device. > > The KSU power supply brings in 117VAC and converts it to 26 VDC, this > appears at the adapter terminal and internally feeds several switching > regulators providing the needed +12, +6 and -16 to run the ksu. > > We found it more cost effective to use a $120 280VA computer backup > box. Use one that uses 12VDC internally, then bring out the battery > leads to a 24AH 12V battery (a popular battery selling around $30). A > kxtd1232 will run 4 hours. Need more time, use a bigger battery, or add > matching batteries in parallel. With the 117VAC available, you can plug > in those accessories (valcom box, ring decipher, etc) > > Hope this gives you some ideas. 12 hours on a 336 would probably take > 4 auto batteries, look at the automotive cigarette lighter Ac adapters > used with a 10 amp > automatic automotive battery charger and a golf cart battery. > > -Larry > > > ******************************************************** > * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * > * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * > ******************************************************** > ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Mon Sep 8 20:59:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2036 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 20:58:19 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <3414DBE8.553A@ticnet.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 22:17:28 -0700 From: "Engineering Lab" Reply-To: "Larry Herring" Organization: Southwest Digital Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Audiotronics Co." CC: KXT@INFO.COM Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Audiotronics Co. wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Engineering Lab wrote: > > Dear sir, > > Might I know the connection pin assignment on the DIN connector of the > KXT-61610 or the KX-A26D ? > > So we could make the adaptor acccordingly ? > > thanks, > > Simon > > audio@iohk.com > Simon, Maybe I was not clear on my suggested use of a computer backup box.... I meant we use a battery backup unit intended for use with a computer. like an APC or Triplite. We plug the battery backup into the wall, and the kxt plugs into the outlet on the battery backup. An out of the box 280VA unit will run a kxt for about 15-30 minutes, which will cover most power line hits. For a longer time, we replace the internal 7AH 12VDC battery with an external 24AH 12VDC battery. Obviously, doing this voids all the battery backup warrantees, etc. I don't have the pinouts handy, the 616 and 61610 use a 7 pin din, the d12 uses an odd 4 pin square molex type connector, the d8 uses a 4 pin in a row molex type. the 1232 uses a 4 pin type molex. (note that molex WILL NOT FIT!) I will post the info later after I find it. (unless someone gets it on here first) -Larry ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Mon Sep 8 21:29:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (733 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 21:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 21:28:49 -0700 (PDT) From: communication ideas limited Subject: KX-T: panasonic kx-t 123210b telephone systems To: kxt@info.com Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk i am looking to source a power supply unit for the above system. if anyone has a psu available or can help me locate one then please contact me. ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Tue Sep 9 18:40:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1573 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:40:10 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970909214014.007de100@mail.pcnet.com> X-Sender: jeffmay@mail.pcnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 21:40:14 -0400 To: KXT Digest From: Jeff May Subject: Re: KX-T: Caller ID on analog KSU In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Becki - The analog Panasonic systems ( KXT61610, KXT123211, et al) do not support caller ID. Like any other system you can connect a caller ID unit "in front" (on the CO side) of each line to receive and display the caller ID info. You will need one caller ID unit for each line. CO >------------------------------ KSU | |_____ Phones | |_____ ID BOX Jeff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ At 11:03 AM 9/8/97 -0700, you wrote: >I'm sure this subject has been covered, but is there a way >to provide Caller ID with a KXT61610 KSU? Can you >connect it in parallel like a fax or modem? ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Tue Sep 9 20:02:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1185 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 20:01:51 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <34160DD3.5680@martinclancy.com> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 23:02:43 -0400 From: Martin Clancy Reply-To: martin@martinclancy.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KXT@info.com Subject: KX-T: Panasonic 308 setup Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Here's a head-scratcher, and I would appreciate suggestions. The challenge is to connect a third CO to a Panasonic 308 system, and have it be "invisible" to all but the two extensions that will have access to it. I know how to limit incoming and dialing access to the CO; I cannot figure out how to have the third CO useable by the two extensions and NOT show up as red "busy" lights on the other extensions. Any ideas? Many thanks. -- Martin@martinclancy.com ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Tue Sep 9 21:06:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (982 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:05:58 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <01BCBDE1.C6109CC0@hhtam006056.netvigator.com> From: JBFN To: "'kxt@info.com'" Subject: KX-T: version 2.20.001 Acidsoft PABX Call Accounting System Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:04:59 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Notice: For those who are currently testing Acidsoft PCAS a new version = is available for download. Version 2.20.001 fixes some bugs over the old = version. Visit http://home.netvigator.com/~acidbent. This version has = been extensively tested with Panasonic models. ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Tue Sep 9 21:12:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1770 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:12:02 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:11:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Arndt To: Martin Clancy cc: KXT@info.com Subject: Re: KX-T: Panasonic 308 setup In-Reply-To: <34160DD3.5680@martinclancy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk I don't have any 308 experience, only 123211D, so I throw this out in ignorance... On the 1232, CO buttons can be assigned as DSS or speed dial buttons. Can this be done on the 308? If so, reassign the button to something else. Chris On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Martin Clancy wrote: > Here's a head-scratcher, and I would appreciate suggestions. The > challenge is to connect a third CO to a Panasonic 308 system, and have > it be "invisible" to all but the two extensions that will have access to > it. > > I know how to limit incoming and dialing access to the CO; I cannot > figure out how to have the third CO useable by the two extensions and > NOT show up as red "busy" lights on the other extensions. Any ideas? > > Many thanks. > > -- > Martin@martinclancy.com > > ******************************************************** > * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * > * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * > ******************************************************** > ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Wed Sep 10 10:33:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1770 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:32:56 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <01BCBDED.EA5132A0@steve@techarts.com> From: Steve Diederich To: "'martin@martinclancy.com'" , "KXT@info.com" Subject: RE: KX-T: Panasonic 308 setup Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:32:27 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4008 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Physically disconnect the red led inside the phones on the other extensions. Hey, it's a last resort idea, but it'll work! :-) Steve On Tuesday, September 09, 1997 11:03 PM, Martin Clancy [SMTP:martin@martinclancy.com] wrote: > Here's a head-scratcher, and I would appreciate suggestions. The > challenge is to connect a third CO to a Panasonic 308 system, and have > it be "invisible" to all but the two extensions that will have access to > it. > > I know how to limit incoming and dialing access to the CO; I cannot > figure out how to have the third CO useable by the two extensions and > NOT show up as red "busy" lights on the other extensions. Any ideas? > > Many thanks. > > -- > Martin@martinclancy.com > > ******************************************************** > * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * > * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * > ******************************************************** ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Wed Sep 10 15:16:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2082 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:15:32 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970910181611.007bfd60@mail.pcnet.com> X-Sender: jeffmay@mail.pcnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:16:11 -0400 To: martin@martinclancy.com From: Jeff May Subject: Re: KX-T: Panasonic 308 setup Cc: KXT@info.com In-Reply-To: <34160DD3.5680@martinclancy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk At 11:02 PM 9/9/97 -0400 Martin Clancy wrote: >Here's a head-scratcher, and I would appreciate suggestions. The >challenge is to connect a third CO to a Panasonic 308 system, and have >it be "invisible" to all but the two extensions that will have access to >it. > >I know how to limit incoming and dialing access to the CO; I cannot >figure out how to have the third CO useable by the two extensions and >NOT show up as red "busy" lights on the other extensions. Any ideas? Martin: My experience is with the 616 and 1232 systems, but I believe the 308 works the same way. You can re-program the buttons on the phones to be something other than CO appearances. - Set the "Program" switch on the back of the phone(s) you want to change to the PROGRAM position. - Press the CO-3 line key. - To make it a DSS of another station instead, press 1, plus the extension number. Then press STORE (or Memory) - To make it a speed-dial key, press 9, plus the telephone number to be dialed. Then press STORE (or Memory) If you ever want to change it back to being a CO line key you can do so by pressing 0, plus the line number (1, 2 or 3). When you are done programming the station, set the program switch on the back to the SET position. Hope this helps. Jeff ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Thu Sep 11 18:11:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2932 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: <199709120109.VAA01117@Lustig.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=NeXT-Mail-1979297823-18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.0b6) From: Barry Lustig Date: Thu, 11 Sep 97 21:09:38 -0400 To: kxt@info.com Subject: KX-T: A Wiring Question for a KX-T61610 Reply-To: barry@Lustig.COM X-Organizations: Barry Lustig & Associates Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk --NeXT-Mail-1979297823-18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sorry if this is a duplicate, but it doesn't seem to have made it out to the list. barry I have a 616 at home with wiring that looks something like this. There are 3 CO lines coming in from the Telco. 2 of the lines go directly to the KXT. 1 of the lines goes into a box that detects the distinctive rings. 2 lines come out of that box. Each goes into the KXT for a total of 4 COs. My answering machine (an AT&T version of the Friday) is currently attached to 2 extensions; one for each of the lines it can answer. The problem that I keep running into is that when someone hangs up before the answering machine finishes its outgoing message I get short message recorded. I know that this is due to the lack of CPC on the stations. Can I rewire my setup to put the answering machine before the KXT? If I do this, will there be any indication to the KXT that the CO line is in use? --NeXT-Mail-1979297823-18 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sorry if this is a duplicate, but it doesn't seem to have made it out to the list. barry I have a 616 at home with wiring that looks something like this. There are 3 CO lines coming in from the Telco. 2 of the lines go directly to the KXT. 1 of the lines goes into a box that detects the distinctive rings. 2 lines come out of that box. Each goes into the KXT for a total of 4 COs. My answering machine (an AT&T version of the Friday) is currently attached to 2 extensions; one for each of the lines it can answer. The problem that I keep running into is that when someone hangs up before the answering machine finishes its outgoing message I get short message recorded. I know that this is due to the lack of CPC on the stations. Can I rewire my setup to put the answering machine before the KXT? If I do this, will there be any indication to the KXT that the CO line is in use? --NeXT-Mail-1979297823-18-- ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Fri Sep 12 05:54:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (920 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 05:52:41 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) From: "Andrejs Pukitis" To: Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:39:38 +0300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 X-Info: Evaluation version at servers Message-Id: <09575808000017@rzf.lv> Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Thank everybody for ideas ! I take APC smart UPS, disconect it's original bateries and replace them with 2 car bateries 100AH and succsessfully run KX-T336 for ~10 hours (I think, ther will be no problems to get 24h or even more!). Andrejs Pukitis ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Fri Sep 12 10:56:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (3036 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:55:09 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970912135234.008f8e20@toltbbs.com> X-Sender: rzarick@toltbbs.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:52:34 -0400 To: barry@Lustig.COM From: Ryck Zarick Subject: Re: KX-T: A Wiring Question for a KX-T61610 Cc: kxt@info.com In-Reply-To: <199709120109.VAA01117@Lustig.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk At 21:09 9/11/97 -0400, you wrote: barry I have a 616 at home with wiring that looks something like this. There are 3 CO lines coming in from the Telco. 2 of the lines go directly to the KXT. 1 of the lines goes into a box that detects the distinctive rings. 2 lines come out of that box. Each goes into the KXT for a total of 4 COs. My answering machine (an AT&T version of the Friday) is currently attached to 2 extensions; one for each of the lines it can answer. The problem that I keep running into is that when someone hangs up before the answering machine finishes its outgoing message I get short message recorded. I know that this is due to the lack of CPC on the stations. Can I rewire my setup to put the answering machine before the KXT? If I do this, will there be any indication to the KXT that the CO line is in use? <<<<<<<< Hello Barry. You may want to try a variation of a trick I've used with an answering machine, with my 616. I used a device (probably from Radio Shack), that is intended to be used to let one answering machine answer two phone lines. However, I used it a bit differently. I ran a phone line and a station line to it instead. This allowed the answering machine to answer the phone line ahead of the KXT, plus I could call the answering machine as a station from anywhere in the house. I also programmed a ring delay for that station number. I kept the volume of the answering machine high enough so that I could screen my calls, and if I wanted to talk to the caller, I simply picked up a phone and pressed 9 to access that line. If you want an indication that the line is in use ahead of the KXT, there may be devices out there that will "busy out" a line going the KXT while the answering machine is in use. Using these two devices together may accomplish what you want. Of course this method would not allow you to answer the call elsewhere. You could get around that problem by using a spare KXT co connection ahead of the "busy out" device. I know this is all a bit of a kludge, but it may work. If you can't find these devices, let me know and I'll find a couple of Web sites that may have them. ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 00:08:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (4301 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:06:41 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Dale Laluk" To: Ryck Zarick , kxt@info.com Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:05:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: KX-T: A Wiring Question for a KX-T61610 CC: kxt@info.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.3.32.19970912135234.008f8e20@toltbbs.com> References: <199709120109.VAA01117@Lustig.COM> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk If you do put the answering machine ahead of the KXT (Yes it is possible) then you will have no indication when it is on the line answering the calls on the phones on the KXT (A real Pain). I used to have a system , that on line 1 it also rang at another location in a seperate building and also into the KXT. Nobody at the KXT location could ever tell if line 1 was actually in use and we had numerous interruppted phone calls. > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:52:34 -0400 > To: barry@Lustig.COM > From: Ryck Zarick > Subject: Re: KX-T: A Wiring Question for a KX-T61610 > Cc: kxt@info.com > At 21:09 9/11/97 -0400, you wrote: > > barry > > > I have a 616 at home with wiring that looks something like this. > There > > are 3 CO lines coming in from the Telco. 2 of the lines go directly > to > > the KXT. 1 of the lines goes into a box that detects the > distinctive > > rings. 2 lines come out of that box. Each goes into the KXT for a > total > > of 4 COs. My answering machine (an AT&T version of the Friday) is > > currently attached to 2 extensions; one for each of the lines it can > > answer. The problem that I keep running into is that when someone > hangs > > up before the answering machine finishes its outgoing message I get > short > > message recorded. I know that this is due to the lack of CPC on the > > stations. Can I rewire my setup to put the answering machine before > the > > KXT? If I do this, will there be any indication to the KXT that the > CO > > line is in use? > > > > > <<<<<<<< > > > > Hello Barry. You may want to try a variation of a trick I've used > with an answering machine, with my 616. > > > I used a device (probably from Radio Shack), that is intended to be > used to let one answering machine answer two phone lines. However, I > used it a bit differently. I ran a phone line and a station line to > it instead. This allowed the answering machine to answer the phone > line ahead of the KXT, plus I could call the answering machine as a > station from anywhere in the house. I also programmed a ring delay > for that station number. > > > I kept the volume of the answering machine high enough so that I > could screen my calls, and if I wanted to talk to the caller, I > simply picked up a phone and pressed 9 to access that line. > > > If you want an indication that the line is in use ahead of the KXT, > there may be devices out there that will "busy out" a line going the > KXT while the answering machine is in use. > > Using these two devices together may accomplish what you want. Of > course this method would not allow you to answer the call elsewhere. > You could get around that problem by using a spare KXT co connection > ahead of the "busy out" device. > > > I know this is all a bit of a kludge, but it may work. If you can't > find these devices, let me know and I'll find a couple of Web sites > that may have them. > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************** * > To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The > KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * > ******************************************************** > ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 00:08:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (4301 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:06:41 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Dale Laluk" To: Ryck Zarick , kxt@info.com Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:05:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: KX-T: A Wiring Question for a KX-T61610 CC: kxt@info.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.3.32.19970912135234.008f8e20@toltbbs.com> References: <199709120109.VAA01117@Lustig.COM> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk If you do put the answering machine ahead of the KXT (Yes it is possible) then you will have no indication when it is on the line answering the calls on the phones on the KXT (A real Pain). I used to have a system , that on line 1 it also rang at another location in a seperate building and also into the KXT. Nobody at the KXT location could ever tell if line 1 was actually in use and we had numerous interruppted phone calls. > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:52:34 -0400 > To: barry@Lustig.COM > From: Ryck Zarick > Subject: Re: KX-T: A Wiring Question for a KX-T61610 > Cc: kxt@info.com > At 21:09 9/11/97 -0400, you wrote: > > barry > > > I have a 616 at home with wiring that looks something like this. > There > > are 3 CO lines coming in from the Telco. 2 of the lines go directly > to > > the KXT. 1 of the lines goes into a box that detects the > distinctive > > rings. 2 lines come out of that box. Each goes into the KXT for a > total > > of 4 COs. My answering machine (an AT&T version of the Friday) is > > currently attached to 2 extensions; one for each of the lines it can > > answer. The problem that I keep running into is that when someone > hangs > > up before the answering machine finishes its outgoing message I get > short > > message recorded. I know that this is due to the lack of CPC on the > > stations. Can I rewire my setup to put the answering machine before > the > > KXT? If I do this, will there be any indication to the KXT that the > CO > > line is in use? > > > > > <<<<<<<< > > > > Hello Barry. You may want to try a variation of a trick I've used > with an answering machine, with my 616. > > > I used a device (probably from Radio Shack), that is intended to be > used to let one answering machine answer two phone lines. However, I > used it a bit differently. I ran a phone line and a station line to > it instead. This allowed the answering machine to answer the phone > line ahead of the KXT, plus I could call the answering machine as a > station from anywhere in the house. I also programmed a ring delay > for that station number. > > > I kept the volume of the answering machine high enough so that I > could screen my calls, and if I wanted to talk to the caller, I > simply picked up a phone and pressed 9 to access that line. > > > If you want an indication that the line is in use ahead of the KXT, > there may be devices out there that will "busy out" a line going the > KXT while the answering machine is in use. > > Using these two devices together may accomplish what you want. Of > course this method would not allow you to answer the call elsewhere. > You could get around that problem by using a spare KXT co connection > ahead of the "busy out" device. > > > I know this is all a bit of a kludge, but it may work. If you can't > find these devices, let me know and I'll find a couple of Web sites > that may have them. > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************** * > To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The > KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * > ******************************************************** > ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 00:24:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2292 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:23:14 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Dale Laluk" To: "Andrejs Pukitis" , kxt@info.com Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:22:04 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D Priority: normal In-reply-to: <09575808000017@rzf.lv> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk I bet if you contacted APC they would highly not recommend this. The charging pattern that the APC UPs uses is meant for a sealed Gel Cell style of battery, not a car battery (Lead/Acid). They charge differently and as such you put yourself at a real risk of some serious damage to your UPS. The other danger of using car batteries is that while they are recharging they put off a explosive gas. If the battery is in a sealed in area, the gas concentration can get to the point that there is a danger of explosions. Don't get me wrong, there are UPS systems out there that can use a car battery, but the APC's are not one of them. If you do use a car battery make sure it is in a vented area. > From: "Andrejs Pukitis" > To: > Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:39:38 +0300 > Thank everybody for ideas ! > I take APC smart UPS, disconect it's original bateries and replace > them with 2 car bateries 100AH and succsessfully run KX-T336 for > ~10 hours (I think, ther will be no problems to get 24h or even > more!). > > Andrejs Pukitis > > ******************************************************** * > To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The > KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * > ******************************************************** > ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 00:27:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (3768 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <341A5BD8.78D8@ticnet.com> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 02:24:40 -0700 From: "Engineering Lab" Reply-To: "Larry Herring" Organization: Southwest Digital Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MickeyMouse CC: kxt@info.com Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D References: <3414DBE8.553A@ticnet.com> <3416FCC4.6AAA@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk MickeyMouse wrote: > > I too use a PC backup UPS to keep a KXT123211 alive and I find your use > of an outboard battery interesting. I have a question: have you tried > discharging the outboard battery - simulating a long power failure - to > test the UPS's response? My fears are that the UPS will either, 1) flame > out, unable to supply the current demands of charging the larger (car or > motorcycle) battery, or 2) that, if it keeps operating, will take a VERY > long time to bring the larger, external battery back to full charge. Any > thoughts on this or on what is the maximum size external battery one can > use "tacked-on" to a small UPS? > > TIA > Dick, We have used both manufacturers and have had no trouble with the larger batteries. In fact this computer, and the other two on the desk are on a 400 VA UPS with two 24 AH 12 V batteries in parallel (the monitor is NOT on the UPS - just the cpu's). I routinely run the batteries into the ground just to test the capacity of the batteries and the recovery rate. After 24 hours, the batteries are back at float level and the charge rate will limit around 3A for about the first half hour. (I am not going to put something out at a client site that has not been tested extensively in the shop.) The UPS will change alarm tone for about five minutes when it nears the end of useful charge, then is shuts down to prevent battery damage. Restoring power, the UPS will bring the batteries back up without overheating the UPS charging circuit. I have not tried a shorted cell test, but the UPS specs specify a shorted cell shutdown mode. I would only use a UPS that has these battery protection features, years ago there were a lot of UPS manufacturers that had no protection for the battery or the inverter - and they are out-of-business - for a reason, they got product back. If using an unknown UPS like this, I would run it into the ground a few days before ever putting it into service, check for any overheating, watch the battery voltage and current. If the UPS can't stay within safe bounds, find one with a better design. And then watch for design changes in your preferred models. Some rules we use for telcom gear power fail - never load the UPS more than 50 % of output rating, measure the equipment real load (not the name plate), expect 50% out of the batteries, replace the batteries when tested capacity drops 50% of that (about 3-4 years on the 24AH 12V). External batteries in acidproof box capable of holding acid of a split battery. And if open flame is around, vent closed box to outside. If you go crazy with battery count, may sure you are not violating building codes. (Not my intent to provide two weeks of back up!!!) I also am (maybe wrongly) assuming that most of the participants here are knowledgeable about electronics. -Larry (Dallas) ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 06:23:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1094 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 06:21:14 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 09:21:02 -0400 (EDT) From: MCSMAN@aol.com Message-ID: <970913092101_-1500159884@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: ryck.zarick@toltbbs.com (ryckzarick) cc: kxt@info.com Subject: KX-T: answering machine Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk recommend: place the answering machine ahead of the ksu but pass line through "privacy" or "exclusion" unit first. this device should be "one in, two out" and whichever device gets line first, gets use of it. other line gets "busy signal". However, doing this defeats trying to "screen" calls. Also, Viking markets a device that looks much like a diode that you put in series with the line to each receiving device. This, too, is a "first come - first served" arrangement, but without the "busy signal" ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 09:55:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2932 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: <199709120109.VAA01117@Lustig.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=NeXT-Mail-1979297823-18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.0b6) From: Barry Lustig Date: Thu, 11 Sep 97 21:09:38 -0400 To: kxt@info.com Subject: KX-T: A Wiring Question for a KX-T61610 Reply-To: barry@Lustig.COM X-Organizations: Barry Lustig & Associates Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk --NeXT-Mail-1979297823-18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sorry if this is a duplicate, but it doesn't seem to have made it out to the list. barry I have a 616 at home with wiring that looks something like this. There are 3 CO lines coming in from the Telco. 2 of the lines go directly to the KXT. 1 of the lines goes into a box that detects the distinctive rings. 2 lines come out of that box. Each goes into the KXT for a total of 4 COs. My answering machine (an AT&T version of the Friday) is currently attached to 2 extensions; one for each of the lines it can answer. The problem that I keep running into is that when someone hangs up before the answering machine finishes its outgoing message I get short message recorded. I know that this is due to the lack of CPC on the stations. Can I rewire my setup to put the answering machine before the KXT? If I do this, will there be any indication to the KXT that the CO line is in use? --NeXT-Mail-1979297823-18 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sorry if this is a duplicate, but it doesn't seem to have made it out to the list. barry I have a 616 at home with wiring that looks something like this. There are 3 CO lines coming in from the Telco. 2 of the lines go directly to the KXT. 1 of the lines goes into a box that detects the distinctive rings. 2 lines come out of that box. Each goes into the KXT for a total of 4 COs. My answering machine (an AT&T version of the Friday) is currently attached to 2 extensions; one for each of the lines it can answer. The problem that I keep running into is that when someone hangs up before the answering machine finishes its outgoing message I get short message recorded. I know that this is due to the lack of CPC on the stations. Can I rewire my setup to put the answering machine before the KXT? If I do this, will there be any indication to the KXT that the CO line is in use? --NeXT-Mail-1979297823-18-- ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 10:31:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (721 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:03:37 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Becki True Subject: KX-T: Caller ID on analog KSU To: kxt@info.com Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk I'm sure this subject has been covered, but is there a way to provide Caller ID with a KXT61610 KSU? Can you connect it in parallel like a fax or modem? Thanks, Becki ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 11:15:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (3768 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <341A5BD8.78D8@ticnet.com> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 02:24:40 -0700 From: "Engineering Lab" Reply-To: "Larry Herring" Organization: Southwest Digital Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MickeyMouse CC: kxt@info.com Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D References: <3414DBE8.553A@ticnet.com> <3416FCC4.6AAA@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk MickeyMouse wrote: > > I too use a PC backup UPS to keep a KXT123211 alive and I find your use > of an outboard battery interesting. I have a question: have you tried > discharging the outboard battery - simulating a long power failure - to > test the UPS's response? My fears are that the UPS will either, 1) flame > out, unable to supply the current demands of charging the larger (car or > motorcycle) battery, or 2) that, if it keeps operating, will take a VERY > long time to bring the larger, external battery back to full charge. Any > thoughts on this or on what is the maximum size external battery one can > use "tacked-on" to a small UPS? > > TIA > Dick, We have used both manufacturers and have had no trouble with the larger batteries. In fact this computer, and the other two on the desk are on a 400 VA UPS with two 24 AH 12 V batteries in parallel (the monitor is NOT on the UPS - just the cpu's). I routinely run the batteries into the ground just to test the capacity of the batteries and the recovery rate. After 24 hours, the batteries are back at float level and the charge rate will limit around 3A for about the first half hour. (I am not going to put something out at a client site that has not been tested extensively in the shop.) The UPS will change alarm tone for about five minutes when it nears the end of useful charge, then is shuts down to prevent battery damage. Restoring power, the UPS will bring the batteries back up without overheating the UPS charging circuit. I have not tried a shorted cell test, but the UPS specs specify a shorted cell shutdown mode. I would only use a UPS that has these battery protection features, years ago there were a lot of UPS manufacturers that had no protection for the battery or the inverter - and they are out-of-business - for a reason, they got product back. If using an unknown UPS like this, I would run it into the ground a few days before ever putting it into service, check for any overheating, watch the battery voltage and current. If the UPS can't stay within safe bounds, find one with a better design. And then watch for design changes in your preferred models. Some rules we use for telcom gear power fail - never load the UPS more than 50 % of output rating, measure the equipment real load (not the name plate), expect 50% out of the batteries, replace the batteries when tested capacity drops 50% of that (about 3-4 years on the 24AH 12V). External batteries in acidproof box capable of holding acid of a split battery. And if open flame is around, vent closed box to outside. If you go crazy with battery count, may sure you are not violating building codes. (Not my intent to provide two weeks of back up!!!) I also am (maybe wrongly) assuming that most of the participants here are knowledgeable about electronics. -Larry (Dallas) ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 11:30:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2204 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:28:29 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970913132602.006a15c8@wco.com> X-Sender: novasys@wco.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 13:26:02 -0500 To: kxt@info.com From: Steve Claydon Subject: KX-T: Surge suppressors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Just for your information, Looking at the back and forth with the APC batter charger thing brought up something I discovered years ago. Simply put, whether a piece of equipment is designed to do something or not, if it works and doesn't burn up, use it. I think Larry's experimentation approach is the right one: check it out, and if it works in trials, use it if it's safe. I also like this approach, esp. having used the Panasonic unit and finding they're overpriced, only sometimes reliable, and wimpy for backup. Second topic: Surge suppressors. Some years ago I started installing full surge suppression on all installations and retrofits. Even though we are not in a high lightning area, there are enough other problems causing AC and phone surges to account for boxes full of dead KSU's, modems, faxes, cards, and phones. I came upon a simple approach that has cut callbacks for surge problems to about 5% of what we used to have: Use it every time. I use Panamax gear and follow their engineered "circle of protection" religiously. In addition we started to place APC units on as many jobs as possible, which has also proven to be a real time and trouble saver. I have also customized stuff from Panamax and Ditek for special applications for surge suppression as needed. Can't tell you how much trouble it saves. Now that Panamax makes a self-resetting 25 pr. protector for CO lines, that's about all I use for that purpose. More expensive, but I never have to touch them later. ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 11:31:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1573 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:40:10 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970909214014.007de100@mail.pcnet.com> X-Sender: jeffmay@mail.pcnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 21:40:14 -0400 To: KXT Digest From: Jeff May Subject: Re: KX-T: Caller ID on analog KSU In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Becki - The analog Panasonic systems ( KXT61610, KXT123211, et al) do not support caller ID. Like any other system you can connect a caller ID unit "in front" (on the CO side) of each line to receive and display the caller ID info. You will need one caller ID unit for each line. CO >------------------------------ KSU | |_____ Phones | |_____ ID BOX Jeff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ At 11:03 AM 9/8/97 -0700, you wrote: >I'm sure this subject has been covered, but is there a way >to provide Caller ID with a KXT61610 KSU? Can you >connect it in parallel like a fax or modem? ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 11:42:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1185 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 20:01:51 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <34160DD3.5680@martinclancy.com> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 23:02:43 -0400 From: Martin Clancy Reply-To: martin@martinclancy.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KXT@info.com Subject: KX-T: Panasonic 308 setup Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Here's a head-scratcher, and I would appreciate suggestions. The challenge is to connect a third CO to a Panasonic 308 system, and have it be "invisible" to all but the two extensions that will have access to it. I know how to limit incoming and dialing access to the CO; I cannot figure out how to have the third CO useable by the two extensions and NOT show up as red "busy" lights on the other extensions. Any ideas? Many thanks. -- Martin@martinclancy.com ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 12:17:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (982 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:05:58 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <01BCBDE1.C6109CC0@hhtam006056.netvigator.com> From: JBFN To: "'kxt@info.com'" Subject: KX-T: version 2.20.001 Acidsoft PABX Call Accounting System Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:04:59 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Notice: For those who are currently testing Acidsoft PCAS a new version = is available for download. Version 2.20.001 fixes some bugs over the old = version. Visit http://home.netvigator.com/~acidbent. This version has = been extensively tested with Panasonic models. ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 12:20:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (4301 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:06:41 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Dale Laluk" To: Ryck Zarick , kxt@info.com Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:05:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: KX-T: A Wiring Question for a KX-T61610 CC: kxt@info.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.3.32.19970912135234.008f8e20@toltbbs.com> References: <199709120109.VAA01117@Lustig.COM> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk If you do put the answering machine ahead of the KXT (Yes it is possible) then you will have no indication when it is on the line answering the calls on the phones on the KXT (A real Pain). I used to have a system , that on line 1 it also rang at another location in a seperate building and also into the KXT. Nobody at the KXT location could ever tell if line 1 was actually in use and we had numerous interruppted phone calls. > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:52:34 -0400 > To: barry@Lustig.COM > From: Ryck Zarick > Subject: Re: KX-T: A Wiring Question for a KX-T61610 > Cc: kxt@info.com > At 21:09 9/11/97 -0400, you wrote: > > barry > > > I have a 616 at home with wiring that looks something like this. > There > > are 3 CO lines coming in from the Telco. 2 of the lines go directly > to > > the KXT. 1 of the lines goes into a box that detects the > distinctive > > rings. 2 lines come out of that box. Each goes into the KXT for a > total > > of 4 COs. My answering machine (an AT&T version of the Friday) is > > currently attached to 2 extensions; one for each of the lines it can > > answer. The problem that I keep running into is that when someone > hangs > > up before the answering machine finishes its outgoing message I get > short > > message recorded. I know that this is due to the lack of CPC on the > > stations. Can I rewire my setup to put the answering machine before > the > > KXT? If I do this, will there be any indication to the KXT that the > CO > > line is in use? > > > > > <<<<<<<< > > > > Hello Barry. You may want to try a variation of a trick I've used > with an answering machine, with my 616. > > > I used a device (probably from Radio Shack), that is intended to be > used to let one answering machine answer two phone lines. However, I > used it a bit differently. I ran a phone line and a station line to > it instead. This allowed the answering machine to answer the phone > line ahead of the KXT, plus I could call the answering machine as a > station from anywhere in the house. I also programmed a ring delay > for that station number. > > > I kept the volume of the answering machine high enough so that I > could screen my calls, and if I wanted to talk to the caller, I > simply picked up a phone and pressed 9 to access that line. > > > If you want an indication that the line is in use ahead of the KXT, > there may be devices out there that will "busy out" a line going the > KXT while the answering machine is in use. > > Using these two devices together may accomplish what you want. Of > course this method would not allow you to answer the call elsewhere. > You could get around that problem by using a spare KXT co connection > ahead of the "busy out" device. > > > I know this is all a bit of a kludge, but it may work. If you can't > find these devices, let me know and I'll find a couple of Web sites > that may have them. > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************** * > To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The > KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * > ******************************************************** > ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 12:25:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1770 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:12:02 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:11:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Arndt To: Martin Clancy cc: KXT@info.com Subject: Re: KX-T: Panasonic 308 setup In-Reply-To: <34160DD3.5680@martinclancy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk I don't have any 308 experience, only 123211D, so I throw this out in ignorance... On the 1232, CO buttons can be assigned as DSS or speed dial buttons. Can this be done on the 308? If so, reassign the button to something else. Chris On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Martin Clancy wrote: > Here's a head-scratcher, and I would appreciate suggestions. The > challenge is to connect a third CO to a Panasonic 308 system, and have > it be "invisible" to all but the two extensions that will have access to > it. > > I know how to limit incoming and dialing access to the CO; I cannot > figure out how to have the third CO useable by the two extensions and > NOT show up as red "busy" lights on the other extensions. Any ideas? > > Many thanks. > > -- > Martin@martinclancy.com > > ******************************************************** > * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * > * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * > ******************************************************** > ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 12:44:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2282 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 18:46:36 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <3414C65B.705F@ticnet.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 20:45:31 -0700 From: "Engineering Lab" Reply-To: "Larry Herring" Organization: Southwest Digital Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrejs Pukitis CC: kxt@info.com Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D References: <09354323800014@rzf.lv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Andrejs Pukitis wrote: > > Hi, does anyone knows something about Battery Adaptor KX-A26D? What does it > do?Is there some way to connect batteries without using KX-A26D? > I need to make backup for KX-T336 (one shelf). Problem is, that I need > backup time for about 12 hours. With currently used backup I get only ~1,5 > h. > Thanks, > > Andrejs The Pana adapters are typically battery control and protection (float charging, shorted cell protection [over current] and low battery shutdown [low voltage]. It watches both auto batteries that are charged and run in series. The KSU is a 26 VDC device. The KSU power supply brings in 117VAC and converts it to 26 VDC, this appears at the adapter terminal and internally feeds several switching regulators providing the needed +12, +6 and -16 to run the ksu. We found it more cost effective to use a $120 280VA computer backup box. Use one that uses 12VDC internally, then bring out the battery leads to a 24AH 12V battery (a popular battery selling around $30). A kxtd1232 will run 4 hours. Need more time, use a bigger battery, or add matching batteries in parallel. With the 117VAC available, you can plug in those accessories (valcom box, ring decipher, etc) Hope this gives you some ideas. 12 hours on a 336 would probably take 4 auto batteries, look at the automotive cigarette lighter Ac adapters used with a 10 amp automatic automotive battery charger and a golf cart battery. -Larry ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 13:08:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2976 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 19:41:34 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:40:58 +0800 (HKT) From: "Audiotronics Co." To: Engineering Lab cc: Andrejs Pukitis , kxt@info.com Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D In-Reply-To: <3414C65B.705F@ticnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Engineering Lab wrote: Dear sir, Might I know the connection pin assignment on the DIN connector of the KXT-61610 or the KX-A26D ? So we could make the adaptor acccordingly ? thanks, Simon audio@iohk.com > Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 20:45:31 -0700 > From: Engineering Lab > To: Andrejs Pukitis > Cc: kxt@info.com > Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D > > Andrejs Pukitis wrote: > > > > Hi, does anyone knows something about Battery Adaptor KX-A26D? What does it > > do?Is there some way to connect batteries without using KX-A26D? > > I need to make backup for KX-T336 (one shelf). Problem is, that I need > > backup time for about 12 hours. With currently used backup I get only ~1,5 > > h. > > Thanks, > > > > Andrejs > > The Pana adapters are typically battery control and protection (float > charging, shorted cell protection [over current] and low battery > shutdown [low voltage]. It watches both auto batteries that are charged > and run in series. The KSU is a 26 VDC device. > > The KSU power supply brings in 117VAC and converts it to 26 VDC, this > appears at the adapter terminal and internally feeds several switching > regulators providing the needed +12, +6 and -16 to run the ksu. > > We found it more cost effective to use a $120 280VA computer backup > box. Use one that uses 12VDC internally, then bring out the battery > leads to a 24AH 12V battery (a popular battery selling around $30). A > kxtd1232 will run 4 hours. Need more time, use a bigger battery, or add > matching batteries in parallel. With the 117VAC available, you can plug > in those accessories (valcom box, ring decipher, etc) > > Hope this gives you some ideas. 12 hours on a 336 would probably take > 4 auto batteries, look at the automotive cigarette lighter Ac adapters > used with a 10 amp > automatic automotive battery charger and a golf cart battery. > > -Larry > > > ******************************************************** > * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * > * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * > ******************************************************** > ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 13:09:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (4301 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:06:41 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Dale Laluk" To: Ryck Zarick , kxt@info.com Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:05:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: KX-T: A Wiring Question for a KX-T61610 CC: kxt@info.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.3.32.19970912135234.008f8e20@toltbbs.com> References: <199709120109.VAA01117@Lustig.COM> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk If you do put the answering machine ahead of the KXT (Yes it is possible) then you will have no indication when it is on the line answering the calls on the phones on the KXT (A real Pain). I used to have a system , that on line 1 it also rang at another location in a seperate building and also into the KXT. Nobody at the KXT location could ever tell if line 1 was actually in use and we had numerous interruppted phone calls. > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:52:34 -0400 > To: barry@Lustig.COM > From: Ryck Zarick > Subject: Re: KX-T: A Wiring Question for a KX-T61610 > Cc: kxt@info.com > At 21:09 9/11/97 -0400, you wrote: > > barry > > > I have a 616 at home with wiring that looks something like this. > There > > are 3 CO lines coming in from the Telco. 2 of the lines go directly > to > > the KXT. 1 of the lines goes into a box that detects the > distinctive > > rings. 2 lines come out of that box. Each goes into the KXT for a > total > > of 4 COs. My answering machine (an AT&T version of the Friday) is > > currently attached to 2 extensions; one for each of the lines it can > > answer. The problem that I keep running into is that when someone > hangs > > up before the answering machine finishes its outgoing message I get > short > > message recorded. I know that this is due to the lack of CPC on the > > stations. Can I rewire my setup to put the answering machine before > the > > KXT? If I do this, will there be any indication to the KXT that the > CO > > line is in use? > > > > > <<<<<<<< > > > > Hello Barry. You may want to try a variation of a trick I've used > with an answering machine, with my 616. > > > I used a device (probably from Radio Shack), that is intended to be > used to let one answering machine answer two phone lines. However, I > used it a bit differently. I ran a phone line and a station line to > it instead. This allowed the answering machine to answer the phone > line ahead of the KXT, plus I could call the answering machine as a > station from anywhere in the house. I also programmed a ring delay > for that station number. > > > I kept the volume of the answering machine high enough so that I > could screen my calls, and if I wanted to talk to the caller, I > simply picked up a phone and pressed 9 to access that line. > > > If you want an indication that the line is in use ahead of the KXT, > there may be devices out there that will "busy out" a line going the > KXT while the answering machine is in use. > > Using these two devices together may accomplish what you want. Of > course this method would not allow you to answer the call elsewhere. > You could get around that problem by using a spare KXT co connection > ahead of the "busy out" device. > > > I know this is all a bit of a kludge, but it may work. If you can't > find these devices, let me know and I'll find a couple of Web sites > that may have them. > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************** * > To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The > KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * > ******************************************************** > ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 13:18:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2036 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 20:58:19 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <3414DBE8.553A@ticnet.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 22:17:28 -0700 From: "Engineering Lab" Reply-To: "Larry Herring" Organization: Southwest Digital Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Audiotronics Co." CC: KXT@INFO.COM Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Audiotronics Co. wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Engineering Lab wrote: > > Dear sir, > > Might I know the connection pin assignment on the DIN connector of the > KXT-61610 or the KX-A26D ? > > So we could make the adaptor acccordingly ? > > thanks, > > Simon > > audio@iohk.com > Simon, Maybe I was not clear on my suggested use of a computer backup box.... I meant we use a battery backup unit intended for use with a computer. like an APC or Triplite. We plug the battery backup into the wall, and the kxt plugs into the outlet on the battery backup. An out of the box 280VA unit will run a kxt for about 15-30 minutes, which will cover most power line hits. For a longer time, we replace the internal 7AH 12VDC battery with an external 24AH 12VDC battery. Obviously, doing this voids all the battery backup warrantees, etc. I don't have the pinouts handy, the 616 and 61610 use a 7 pin din, the d12 uses an odd 4 pin square molex type connector, the d8 uses a 4 pin in a row molex type. the 1232 uses a 4 pin type molex. (note that molex WILL NOT FIT!) I will post the info later after I find it. (unless someone gets it on here first) -Larry ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 13:46:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (733 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 21:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 21:28:49 -0700 (PDT) From: communication ideas limited Subject: KX-T: panasonic kx-t 123210b telephone systems To: kxt@info.com Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk i am looking to source a power supply unit for the above system. if anyone has a psu available or can help me locate one then please contact me. ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 14:06:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1770 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:32:56 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: <01BCBDED.EA5132A0@steve@techarts.com> From: Steve Diederich To: "'martin@martinclancy.com'" , "KXT@info.com" Subject: RE: KX-T: Panasonic 308 setup Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:32:27 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4008 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Physically disconnect the red led inside the phones on the other extensions. Hey, it's a last resort idea, but it'll work! :-) Steve On Tuesday, September 09, 1997 11:03 PM, Martin Clancy [SMTP:martin@martinclancy.com] wrote: > Here's a head-scratcher, and I would appreciate suggestions. The > challenge is to connect a third CO to a Panasonic 308 system, and have > it be "invisible" to all but the two extensions that will have access to > it. > > I know how to limit incoming and dialing access to the CO; I cannot > figure out how to have the third CO useable by the two extensions and > NOT show up as red "busy" lights on the other extensions. Any ideas? > > Many thanks. > > -- > Martin@martinclancy.com > > ******************************************************** > * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * > * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * > ******************************************************** ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 14:12:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2292 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:23:14 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Dale Laluk" To: "Andrejs Pukitis" , kxt@info.com Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:22:04 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D Priority: normal In-reply-to: <09575808000017@rzf.lv> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk I bet if you contacted APC they would highly not recommend this. The charging pattern that the APC UPs uses is meant for a sealed Gel Cell style of battery, not a car battery (Lead/Acid). They charge differently and as such you put yourself at a real risk of some serious damage to your UPS. The other danger of using car batteries is that while they are recharging they put off a explosive gas. If the battery is in a sealed in area, the gas concentration can get to the point that there is a danger of explosions. Don't get me wrong, there are UPS systems out there that can use a car battery, but the APC's are not one of them. If you do use a car battery make sure it is in a vented area. > From: "Andrejs Pukitis" > To: > Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:39:38 +0300 > Thank everybody for ideas ! > I take APC smart UPS, disconect it's original bateries and replace > them with 2 car bateries 100AH and succsessfully run KX-T336 for > ~10 hours (I think, ther will be no problems to get 24h or even > more!). > > Andrejs Pukitis > > ******************************************************** * > To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The > KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * > ******************************************************** > ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 14:12:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2082 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:15:32 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970910181611.007bfd60@mail.pcnet.com> X-Sender: jeffmay@mail.pcnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:16:11 -0400 To: martin@martinclancy.com From: Jeff May Subject: Re: KX-T: Panasonic 308 setup Cc: KXT@info.com In-Reply-To: <34160DD3.5680@martinclancy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk At 11:02 PM 9/9/97 -0400 Martin Clancy wrote: >Here's a head-scratcher, and I would appreciate suggestions. The >challenge is to connect a third CO to a Panasonic 308 system, and have >it be "invisible" to all but the two extensions that will have access to >it. > >I know how to limit incoming and dialing access to the CO; I cannot >figure out how to have the third CO useable by the two extensions and >NOT show up as red "busy" lights on the other extensions. Any ideas? Martin: My experience is with the 616 and 1232 systems, but I believe the 308 works the same way. You can re-program the buttons on the phones to be something other than CO appearances. - Set the "Program" switch on the back of the phone(s) you want to change to the PROGRAM position. - Press the CO-3 line key. - To make it a DSS of another station instead, press 1, plus the extension number. Then press STORE (or Memory) - To make it a speed-dial key, press 9, plus the telephone number to be dialed. Then press STORE (or Memory) If you ever want to change it back to being a CO line key you can do so by pressing 0, plus the line number (1, 2 or 3). When you are done programming the station, set the program switch on the back to the SET position. Hope this helps. Jeff ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 14:37:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (2932 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: <199709120109.VAA01117@Lustig.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=NeXT-Mail-1979297823-18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.0b6) From: Barry Lustig Date: Thu, 11 Sep 97 21:09:38 -0400 To: kxt@info.com Subject: KX-T: A Wiring Question for a KX-T61610 Reply-To: barry@Lustig.COM X-Organizations: Barry Lustig & Associates Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk --NeXT-Mail-1979297823-18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sorry if this is a duplicate, but it doesn't seem to have made it out to the list. barry I have a 616 at home with wiring that looks something like this. There are 3 CO lines coming in from the Telco. 2 of the lines go directly to the KXT. 1 of the lines goes into a box that detects the distinctive rings. 2 lines come out of that box. Each goes into the KXT for a total of 4 COs. My answering machine (an AT&T version of the Friday) is currently attached to 2 extensions; one for each of the lines it can answer. The problem that I keep running into is that when someone hangs up before the answering machine finishes its outgoing message I get short message recorded. I know that this is due to the lack of CPC on the stations. Can I rewire my setup to put the answering machine before the KXT? If I do this, will there be any indication to the KXT that the CO line is in use? --NeXT-Mail-1979297823-18 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sorry if this is a duplicate, but it doesn't seem to have made it out to the list. barry I have a 616 at home with wiring that looks something like this. There are 3 CO lines coming in from the Telco. 2 of the lines go directly to the KXT. 1 of the lines goes into a box that detects the distinctive rings. 2 lines come out of that box. Each goes into the KXT for a total of 4 COs. My answering machine (an AT&T version of the Friday) is currently attached to 2 extensions; one for each of the lines it can answer. The problem that I keep running into is that when someone hangs up before the answering machine finishes its outgoing message I get short message recorded. I know that this is due to the lack of CPC on the stations. Can I rewire my setup to put the answering machine before the KXT? If I do this, will there be any indication to the KXT that the CO line is in use? --NeXT-Mail-1979297823-18-- ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 14:54:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1094 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 06:21:14 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 09:21:02 -0400 (EDT) From: MCSMAN@aol.com Message-ID: <970913092101_-1500159884@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: ryck.zarick@toltbbs.com (ryckzarick) cc: kxt@info.com Subject: KX-T: answering machine Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk recommend: place the answering machine ahead of the ksu but pass line through "privacy" or "exclusion" unit first. this device should be "one in, two out" and whichever device gets line first, gets use of it. other line gets "busy signal". However, doing this defeats trying to "screen" calls. Also, Viking markets a device that looks much like a diode that you put in series with the line to each receiving device. This, too, is a "first come - first served" arrangement, but without the "busy signal" ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 15:00:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (920 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 05:52:41 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) From: "Andrejs Pukitis" To: Subject: Re: KX-T: Battery Adaptor KX-A26D Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:39:38 +0300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 X-Info: Evaluation version at servers Message-Id: <09575808000017@rzf.lv> Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Thank everybody for ideas ! I take APC smart UPS, disconect it's original bateries and replace them with 2 car bateries 100AH and succsessfully run KX-T336 for ~10 hours (I think, ther will be no problems to get 24h or even more!). Andrejs Pukitis ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 15:05:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (3036 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:55:09 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970912135234.008f8e20@toltbbs.com> X-Sender: rzarick@toltbbs.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:52:34 -0400 To: barry@Lustig.COM From: Ryck Zarick Subject: Re: KX-T: A Wiring Question for a KX-T61610 Cc: kxt@info.com In-Reply-To: <199709120109.VAA01117@Lustig.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk At 21:09 9/11/97 -0400, you wrote: barry I have a 616 at home with wiring that looks something like this. There are 3 CO lines coming in from the Telco. 2 of the lines go directly to the KXT. 1 of the lines goes into a box that detects the distinctive rings. 2 lines come out of that box. Each goes into the KXT for a total of 4 COs. My answering machine (an AT&T version of the Friday) is currently attached to 2 extensions; one for each of the lines it can answer. The problem that I keep running into is that when someone hangs up before the answering machine finishes its outgoing message I get short message recorded. I know that this is due to the lack of CPC on the stations. Can I rewire my setup to put the answering machine before the KXT? If I do this, will there be any indication to the KXT that the CO line is in use? <<<<<<<< Hello Barry. You may want to try a variation of a trick I've used with an answering machine, with my 616. I used a device (probably from Radio Shack), that is intended to be used to let one answering machine answer two phone lines. However, I used it a bit differently. I ran a phone line and a station line to it instead. This allowed the answering machine to answer the phone line ahead of the KXT, plus I could call the answering machine as a station from anywhere in the house. I also programmed a ring delay for that station number. I kept the volume of the answering machine high enough so that I could screen my calls, and if I wanted to talk to the caller, I simply picked up a phone and pressed 9 to access that line. If you want an indication that the line is in use ahead of the KXT, there may be devices out there that will "busy out" a line going the KXT while the answering machine is in use. Using these two devices together may accomplish what you want. Of course this method would not allow you to answer the call elsewhere. You could get around that problem by using a spare KXT co connection ahead of the "busy out" device. I know this is all a bit of a kludge, but it may work. If you can't find these devices, let me know and I'll find a couple of Web sites that may have them. ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Sat Sep 13 15:47:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1591 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 15:45:48 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Donald Griggs" To: "Dale Laluk" Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:48:00 -0005 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: KX-T:61610 - exclusion gadget Reply-to: dgriggs@who.net CC: kxt@info.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <3.0.3.32.19970912135234.008f8e20@toltbbs.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Regarding: >Nobody at the KXT location > could ever tell if line 1 was actually in use and we had numerous > interruppted phone calls. Another source for a line exclusion gadget is Sandman, $6.60 each or $6 in qty 10. http://www.sandman.com/accy.html I bought a wad and they are nifty. A local phone installer said they could install a device for $150 that would give a true busy signal -- I think we may just opt for the 6 buck solution. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Donald Griggs -- dgriggs@who.net -- http://www.scsn.net/users/dgriggs "Not tonight dear, I have a modem." ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Mon Sep 15 22:28:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1828 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:27:10 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:27:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Timothy A. Anderson Subject: KX-T: I'm loosing my mind on XDP ports To: kxt@info.com Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk OK, so I'm one of those guys that purchased a KX-TD1232-1 out of the back of a station wagon... We've had two major problems with using XDP ports. First, the port will not function without an appropriate DPT attached to it. Is this the way it is supposed to work? I thought the 'hybrid' was supposed to be able to run any type of phone, not just SLT's hanging off of DPT's... I'd like to be able to just hook up an SLT to one of the jacks and have it work. Instead I'm routing it off of the 66 block as mentioned in a previous article. Second, the XDP ports for jacks 9-16 are not functioning correctly. I can hook an SLT into them, but I get no answer tone from the KX-TD1232. I can dial the seperate extension and it will ring, but you can't pick up and have it connect. When you pick up the phone, you just hear the ringing tones blasting through the speaker. Jacks 1-8 work just fine (and yes, i've enabled the XDP ports [600] and assigned them individual extension numbers [003]). I don't quite know how to even test this monster to see if there is something major broken. Is there some mystery flag that I need to set to get XDP ports to work in the 9-16 jack range? Jacks 1-8 just magically worked... Thanks! tima@predator-software.com ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Tue Sep 16 01:08:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1477 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 01:05:25 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Message-ID: From: "Jan Meeremans" To: Subject: KX-T: KXTD1232 and roms Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:59:53 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk Hi, We have a KXTD1232 with a 6SO (ISDN) card on it. Can someone help me wtih the following problems : 1. We cannot transfer from an outside line to an outside line. This is a problem of the Dutch rom's. In the Netherlands one is not allowed to to do that. We are in Belgium but we cannot find rom's that support this. 2. When we connect a modem to the KXTD1232 that has a Belgium approval, the modem can not find a dial tone. Non approved modems have no problem with this. I guess this is also a problem with the ROM, a frequency that is slight different from what Belgium Telecom expects to give. Please help... Jan Meeremans Jan@myriade.be Myriade n.v. Drongenstationstraat 59-61 9031 Drongen Belgium tel: +32-9-2266029 fax: +32-9-2266084 ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Tue Sep 16 08:07:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (1513 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 08:05:23 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 08:05:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: rene@itsntserver.its.com.ve Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kxt@info.com From: Rene Peels Subject: KX-T: programming 7020 telephones connected to a KXTD1232 X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.5 rB b2 32-R X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: kxt@info.com Reply-To: rpeels@its.com.ve Sender: owner-kxt Precedence: bulk We recently exchanged our old panasonic analog EMSS for a new digital KXTD1232. We left most of the analog 7020 phones in place. With the analog system these phones could be programmed using the program switch on the back of the phone. With the new TD1232 this does not seem to work anymore. How can the buttons on the analog phones be reprogrammed? Thanks, Rene Peels. ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS ITS Servicios Tecnicos Serving the Petroleum industry since 1974 Telf +58.2.242.6961/242.7338 Fax +58.2.241.2561 / +58.2.284.2401 ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS-ITS ******************************************************** * To unsubscribe, e-mail kxt-request@info.com * * The KXT-Digest Home Page: http://www.info.com/kxt/ * ******************************************************** From owner-kxt Tue Sep 16 15:41:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (758 bytes) by bevo.info.com via sendmail with P:stdio/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:38:35 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #13 built 1997-Aug-27) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:37:51 -0400 (EDT) From: MCSMAN@aol.com Message-ID: <970916183526_169525184@emout01.mail.aol.com> To: rpeels@its.com.ve cc: kxt@info.com Subject: Re: KX-T: programming 7020 telephones connect