KX-T: Which systems are Panasonics traded in for?
john at lantex.com
Mon Feb 23 20:10:40 PST 2004
Panasonic has the most features of the small to mid-range systems. However,
Other than Panasonic, I sell Avaya! The Partner and Magix systems are
scalable and easy to use.
Just remember that the telecom industry is always behind the times when it
comes to latest and greatest technologies. You won't see a phone that reads
your email and makes coffee any time soon, but you will see many feature
add-ons and improvements to current systems at least once a year.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kxt-bounces at kxthelp.com [mailto:kxt-bounces at kxthelp.com] On Behalf
> Of Carl Navarro
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 9:47 AM
> To: Jim McAtee; kxt at kxthelp.com
> Subject: Re: KX-T: Which systems are Panasonics traded in for?
> At 10:13 AM 2/23/2004 -0700, Jim McAtee wrote:
> >Thanks guys. We haven't outgrown the KX-TD. I really was just curious.
> >Like I say, I only know about the Panasonic system, although I'm aware of
> >many others. I was just wondering where some of the others fit into the
> >small business marketplace. From what I've read and heard on this list
> >other places, I've no doubt the Panasonic systems are an incredible
> value, so
> >maybe this isn't the best forum to ask.
> >Maybe the question might have been better asked: If a small company (say
> >under 30 people and 8 lines) were starting up, what other phone systems
> >_might_ you recommend beside the Panasonic?
> It's a function of money and features. I still, sometimes, call myself a
> Comdial dealer. I still deal in Mitel and I can go into the secondary
> market and get just about anything. An 8x30 system in TD isn't bad. An
> 8x30 in used Comdial Impact
> isn't ugly, but you will pay more for phones and VM. If you need the VM
> flexibility, I'd recommend Comdial. If you want the ability to add single
> line devices, and most customers do, I'd recommend Panasonic.
> Pricing wise, if you want all Display phones, Comdial phones are about 10%
> more. They used to GIVE the KSU's away. Now, it's a bit of a tossup.
> Keep in mind that future growth is/used to be a problem with Pana that
> isn't a problem in Comdial.
> I've found that most customer don't want to mix and match phones or
> systems. They buy what they're used to and generally all phones must look
> and function the same. They don't want to "save some money" by going from
> a multi-line to a single line set with access codes. They don't want to
> move from a key system to a PBX. And most of them want square systems.
> The Avaya Magix digital is a pretty nice and easy system with larger
> potential. I'm not a primary dealer so I can't tell you much about
> pricing. It has reasonalbe enough features. Same with Nortel ICS.
> In 20+ years of being in business, I've learned that you can't win all
> and there's a time to walk away. Sometimes you're the shill for a manager
> who wants 3 bids, sometimes you just don't have the sizzle product, and a
> lot of times his mind is already made up (see RFP's in school systems).
> they ask for a feature you don't have, you figure out which system does
> now you know who you're losing the bid to. It happens all the time.
> Now if Panasonic would get a decent TAPI interface......
> Carl Navarro
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "CP" <cp at telephonesecurity.com>
> >To: "Jim McAtee" <jmcatee at mediaodyssey.com>; <kxt at kxthelp.com>; "Carl
> >Navarro" <cnavarro at wcnet.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:26 PM
> >Subject: Re: KX-T: Which systems are Panasonics traded in for?
> >> Jim, when you say you are outgroing the TD1232, are you still at a
> >> cabinet? Since you are familiar with it, you can still go double on
> >> and keep everyone happy with the ext numbers, mailboxes, etc.
> >> I think you have a -4 ksu, I would definately upgrade that to a -6/7
> with a
> >> new motherboard, match it with a new -7 cabinet, and you can be up and
> >> running in a couple of hours. (Don't forget, the new cabinet comes
> with a
> >> caller id card, so you can put that to use too.) You can upload the -4
> >> settings into the -7.
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